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Dope
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posted 09-26-2000 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dope   Click Here to Email Dope     send a private message to Dope   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys,

I'm building me a server that's dual booting NT and 98. I've got them on their own partitions (NTFS and FAT32) and right now it's booting to NT. The question is....How do I get it to boot to the 'other' OS? I've edited the boot.ini to include the drive/partition and path for 98, and it shows up at boot, but when I select it, it tries to load it as if it were NT. Immediately crashes with a ntoskrnl error because obviously, these files don't exist in 98.

Same problem with FreeBSD.

Oh, and I can boot to either OS by setting that particular partition active.

I'm doing something wrong...what is it?

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posted 09-26-2000 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hal9000     send a private message to hal9000   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fat32 may be your problem... as i recall, the nt loader only understands fat16 partitions...

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posted 09-26-2000 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skebe   Click Here to Email skebe     send a private message to skebe   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Hal9k said...

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posted 09-26-2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lacutis   Click Here to Email Lacutis     send a private message to Lacutis   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Under the [OPERATING SYSTEMS] section of the boot.ini file add:
quote:

D:\="Windows 98"

Or whatever drive your 98 is installed on.

[This message has been edited by Lacutis (edited 09-26-2000).]

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posted 09-26-2000 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lacutis   Click Here to Email Lacutis     send a private message to Lacutis   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well dope?

Oh and if you have fBSD installed, I would recommend using their boot loader and configuring it to boot either Bsd, 98 or nt.

That usually works better.

[This message has been edited by Lacutis (edited 09-26-2000).]

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posted 09-26-2000 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dope   Click Here to Email Dope     send a private message to Dope   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The FreeBSD problem is gone. They decided they wanted just FreeBSD anyway, so they toasted NT.

However, my own machine still has the same problem.

Here's the deal:
Partition 1(c :): NTFS with NT loaded on it
Partition 2(d :): FAT16 (just converted it) with 98 SE on it
Here's my boot.ini:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Windows NT Workstation Version 4.00 [VGA mode]" /basevideo /sos
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Windows 98 Second Edition"
D:\WINDOWS="Windows 98 Second Edition"
D:\="Windows 98"

None of the last 3 work (I left them all there for testing purposes)

They all get the same ntoskrnl error (it's trying to load it as NT) except for Lacutis' idea, which gets a page fault (because d:\ isn't the path to win98).

Any further ideas? Note that I did convert the fat32 drive to fat16 in an attempt to solve the problem...

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[This message has been edited by Dope (edited 09-26-2000).]

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posted 09-26-2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lacutis   Click Here to Email Lacutis     send a private message to Lacutis   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try
c:\="Win 98"

because its not D:\ as the ntfs drive isnt really a fat drive.

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posted 09-26-2000 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ]EA[Voodoo     send a private message to ]EA[Voodoo   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to point out that although you cannot install windows NT directly onto a Fat32 drive, I believe in either SP4 or SP6 they made it recognize FAT32, so you can throw in another drive, partition it as FAT32, and use it under NT (as long as you have the appropriate or higher service pack installed).

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posted 09-26-2000 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blaze   Click Here to Email Blaze     send a private message to Blaze   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just gonna ask what the point of a dual booting server was

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posted 09-26-2000 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dope   Click Here to Email Dope     send a private message to Dope   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voodoo: It doesn't recognize FAT32, unless it's beyond service pack 6A (which I have). I installed file system support for FAT32 anyway and it still didn't work.

That might work Lacutis, I'll try it tomorrow.

Too bad I can't convert from NTFS to FAT to try to make it all FAT.


Hmmmm

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posted 09-26-2000 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lacutis   Click Here to Email Lacutis     send a private message to Lacutis   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may sound redundant.
But if you are using any type of *nix at home I would use lilo or the equivalent to do the booting. Lilo is nifty.

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posted 09-26-2000 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronWall   Click Here to Email IronWall     send a private message to IronWall   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What order did you install these OSes? 98 will need the BOOTSECT.DOS file to be able to boot. NT automatically creates this when you install it onto a system that already has 9x or DOS installed. I'm not sure if this file can be transferred over from another computer or not, but if you want to try, I can send you mine. Just contact me on ICQ if you want it.

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posted 09-26-2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dope   Click Here to Email Dope     send a private message to Dope   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NT first, then 98.

But remember, at the time, I was using NTFS/FAT32. Hmm. This hurts my brain.

I should just start over...so which first then?

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posted 09-27-2000 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dope   Click Here to Email Dope     send a private message to Dope   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another random thought...anyone know of any third-party programs for multiple-boot configurations? That would be handy...


I was just thinking ahead...I gotta build a triple-boot system at work soon....NT/98/95. Gahhh

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posted 09-27-2000 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blitzkrieg     send a private message to Blitzkrieg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.powerquest.com/bootmagic/index.html

This help?

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posted 09-27-2000 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Black Angel     send a private message to The Black Angel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
three words: removable hard drives

works for me.

eliminates risk of deleteting the other stuff by accident...unless you drop it next to some sort of heavy magnetical field....

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posted 09-27-2000 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terminus     send a private message to Terminus   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good thing for us nerds are kind of cool now.

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posted 09-27-2000 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chipko   Click Here to Email Chipko     send a private message to Chipko   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ftp2.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBBS/tools/osbsbeta.exe

Installs under windows, DOS'ish GUI, boots: win9x winNT Linux and FreeBSD. Autodetects your OS'es and is really easy to set up.

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posted 09-27-2000 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lacutis   Click Here to Email Lacutis     send a private message to Lacutis   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Bootmagic comes with Partition Magic 5.0 and it has a neat little GUI and stuff.

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